Found this while surfing. Very impressive durability. Kinda sad to destroy a perfectly good boat, though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYyvIExWkqU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYyvIExWkqU
Kayak durability -- WOW!
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That's the same kayak skin that we're now using on our kayak kits, nylon with a two part urethane coating from Spirit Line in Washington. Our old skin, PVC, is also just as tough, but more difficult (acc. to some customers) to skin the frame.
For sea kayaking, there aren't many things that SOF can't do as well as plastic or fiberglass.
For sea kayaking, there aren't many things that SOF can't do as well as plastic or fiberglass.
I don't think an epoxy/glass/wood boat would have stood up to that kind of treatment much better. That stuff looks as tough as shoe leather.
Joey
Joey
Truthful Jack built a canoe outta shoe leather. Capt. Lewis tole him ta stick ta campfire songs.
Some of the injuns in Montana liked hiz singin'. Most give Capt. Lewis a few dogs ta git him ta stop. When no sharp shooters brung back any back strap, Capt. Lewis would tell Jack ta put some Star Spangled Banner on them injuns. Most of the corps of discovery made ear plugs. [They got some of 'em in the Museum.] The injuns figgered Jack wuz a evil medicine man.....kinda like Yoko Ono Lennon.
After that trip, Jack spent a few years in Nevada....lookin' fer a casino lounge job. It wuz a dream he had in the desert. He never found no casino, so he went ta Arizona ta hang out in the ruins where he spent hiz younger days. He begun ta gain weight, grew long sideburns, wore a big belt buckle 'n begun ta call hizself the King. Kept mutterin' bout the colonel 'n fried peanut butter 'n banana sammiches.
This iz all true. He tole me so hizownself.
regards
bearridge
bodine historikle society
The meek shall inherit the earth, but not its mineral rights. J. Paul Getty
Some of the injuns in Montana liked hiz singin'. Most give Capt. Lewis a few dogs ta git him ta stop. When no sharp shooters brung back any back strap, Capt. Lewis would tell Jack ta put some Star Spangled Banner on them injuns. Most of the corps of discovery made ear plugs. [They got some of 'em in the Museum.] The injuns figgered Jack wuz a evil medicine man.....kinda like Yoko Ono Lennon.
After that trip, Jack spent a few years in Nevada....lookin' fer a casino lounge job. It wuz a dream he had in the desert. He never found no casino, so he went ta Arizona ta hang out in the ruins where he spent hiz younger days. He begun ta gain weight, grew long sideburns, wore a big belt buckle 'n begun ta call hizself the King. Kept mutterin' bout the colonel 'n fried peanut butter 'n banana sammiches.
This iz all true. He tole me so hizownself.
regards
bearridge
bodine historikle society
The meek shall inherit the earth, but not its mineral rights. J. Paul Getty
Bit of a question for Joel on account of an idea I had :idea: , Seein' how you'ser the resident SOF specialist. Itsabout them airbags you build and use. To my way of thinking the biggest threat to a SOF would be a sharp object. A rounded object could well be abrasive but unlikely to be an immediate problem.
Well with sharp objects if they were to puncture the skin wouldn't they also be likely to puncture an airbag, assuming one chamber is the norm, sitting snugly against the skin?
On a totally different forum someone asked about floatation and I came up with an idea of using bubble wrap :roll: My thinking was that any damage would be comparmentalised (whew that was a long word) Some bubble wrap they use for specialist packaging comprises strips of plastic filled with bubbles of air. Very tough plastic, very light, very secular. (I think that word is appropriate, but if not I like it anyways).
Your thoughts please Joel.
Regards John.
Well with sharp objects if they were to puncture the skin wouldn't they also be likely to puncture an airbag, assuming one chamber is the norm, sitting snugly against the skin?
On a totally different forum someone asked about floatation and I came up with an idea of using bubble wrap :roll: My thinking was that any damage would be comparmentalised (whew that was a long word) Some bubble wrap they use for specialist packaging comprises strips of plastic filled with bubbles of air. Very tough plastic, very light, very secular. (I think that word is appropriate, but if not I like it anyways).
Your thoughts please Joel.
Regards John.
Aye god, Br'r Bear, you're a slick (sik?) story unwinder. I'da old about the same truth. 'Cept they gimme squaws to hush me up. Dogs'n me got ta howling three part harmony by the time we reached Three Forks.
jdupre' said:Found this while surfing. Very impressive durability. Kinda sad to destroy a perfectly good boat, though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYyvIExWkqU
For any of us in the Southeast, Sea Kayak Georgia is tentatively planning on having a SOF build clinic after their symposium next fall. Here's a link to the symposium: http://seakayakgeorgia.com/Instruction/BCU_Week/index.htm. Ronnie says they'll have info up about the build clinic as soon as they get a couple things nailed down.
I'm trying to figure out how to take two weeks off and do both the symposium and the build out, but still keep my job. Been wanting a Greenland style SOF since the Baidarka-L email list was running in the early 90s. The new skins are making them attractive down here where oyster bars are more common than smooth rocks like up north.
Re:
A bit after the fact, but I'm working on catching up on old posts.
I've run my SOF's up on sharp rocks and haven't cut the skin yet. I also have yet to puncture it. Most holes in an SOF come from getting pebbles and sand between the frame and the skin. Eventually, they work their way through a canvas or a nylon skin. With the PVC skin that we've been using, that hasn't been a problem. We'll see, though, now that we're using nylon skin coated with P/U. A sea sock definitely helps to keep sand out of the kayak.
The airbags are very tough with a lot of give, so you'd have to hit something pretty hard in order for it to go through the skin and then through the airbag. Even if the skin is compromised, if you have full float bags you can stay afloat and even paddle.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hjJziVg ... annel_page
Bubble wrap would work well for flotation. The problem will be that it might be a problem to take it out and put it back in. It's a good idea to take out float bags every so often to give the kayak a chance to dry out.
A bit after the fact, but I'm working on catching up on old posts.
I've run my SOF's up on sharp rocks and haven't cut the skin yet. I also have yet to puncture it. Most holes in an SOF come from getting pebbles and sand between the frame and the skin. Eventually, they work their way through a canvas or a nylon skin. With the PVC skin that we've been using, that hasn't been a problem. We'll see, though, now that we're using nylon skin coated with P/U. A sea sock definitely helps to keep sand out of the kayak.
The airbags are very tough with a lot of give, so you'd have to hit something pretty hard in order for it to go through the skin and then through the airbag. Even if the skin is compromised, if you have full float bags you can stay afloat and even paddle.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hjJziVg ... annel_page
Bubble wrap would work well for flotation. The problem will be that it might be a problem to take it out and put it back in. It's a good idea to take out float bags every so often to give the kayak a chance to dry out.
john the pom said:Bit of a question for Joel on account of an idea I had :idea: , Seein' how you'ser the resident SOF specialist. Itsabout them airbags you build and use. To my way of thinking the biggest threat to a SOF would be a sharp object. A rounded object could well be abrasive but unlikely to be an immediate problem.
Well with sharp objects if they were to puncture the skin wouldn't they also be likely to puncture an airbag, assuming one chamber is the norm, sitting snugly against the skin?
On a totally different forum someone asked about floatation and I came up with an idea of using bubble wrap :roll: My thinking was that any damage would be comparmentalised (whew that was a long word) Some bubble wrap they use for specialist packaging comprises strips of plastic filled with bubbles of air. Very tough plastic, very light, very secular. (I think that word is appropriate, but if not I like it anyways).
Your thoughts please Joel.
Regards John.