Ok. I guess that I should have introduced myself first thing, but I didnt so shame on me Im Brian and I actually started on this UJ pirogue idea when I was overseas in Iraq. Now I'm home and the junkie itch has finally being scratched. Just started today on the actuall building by scarfing my joints and getting ready to join tommorrow. I read in another post that butt joints are better is this true? It seems like the increased surface area of a scarf joint should be stronger. Anyway going to try and get ribs put together and cut stems tommorrow as well. The funny thing about this wholepirogue idea is ..I was born in New Orleans and spent most of my life in and around Gretna,Harvey Marrero..and cant say that I ever saw a real pirogue. Or maybe I did but was just to busy licking the sap off the trees to notice ;} Pics tommorrow